Comments on: New Algorithm Discovered: Natural Search & Paid Search Confluence by Google http://www.vinnylingham.com/new-algorithm-discovered-natural-search-paid-search-confluence-by-google.html Entrepreneur, Blogger, Speaker, Webaholic & Search Engine Guru Fri, 09 Jan 2009 01:21:09 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: Pete Stewart http://www.vinnylingham.com/new-algorithm-discovered-natural-search-paid-search-confluence-by-google.html/comment-page-1#comment-155044 Pete Stewart Thu, 22 Mar 2007 12:40:24 +0000 http://www.vinnylingham.com/2007/03/new-algorithm-discovered-natural-search-paid-search-confluence-by-google.html#comment-155044 Hi All,<br><br>Interested in this post and Vinnys findings. We have experimented with htis over a number of years and have not found paid search spend influencing organic rankings.<br><br>I'd be interested to know what sort of spend was placed on promoting this page as well as the competativeness of the phrase (maybe too much to ask ;)). <br><br>It would be great to have more examples. If it is true (which the Incubeta guys) believe, it has major consequences. Hi All,

Interested in this post and Vinnys findings. We have experimented with htis over a number of years and have not found paid search spend influencing organic rankings.

I'd be interested to know what sort of spend was placed on promoting this page as well as the competativeness of the phrase (maybe too much to ask ;)).

It would be great to have more examples. If it is true (which the Incubeta guys) believe, it has major consequences.

]]> By: Pete Stewart http://www.vinnylingham.com/new-algorithm-discovered-natural-search-paid-search-confluence-by-google.html/comment-page-1#comment-20054 Pete Stewart Thu, 22 Mar 2007 07:40:24 +0000 http://www.vinnylingham.com/2007/03/new-algorithm-discovered-natural-search-paid-search-confluence-by-google.html#comment-20054 Hi All, Interested in this post and Vinnys findings. We have experimented with htis over a number of years and have not found paid search spend influencing organic rankings. I'd be interested to know what sort of spend was placed on promoting this page as well as the competativeness of the phrase (maybe too much to ask ;)). It would be great to have more examples. If it is true (which the Incubeta guys) believe, it has major consequences. Hi All,

Interested in this post and Vinnys findings. We have experimented with htis over a number of years and have not found paid search spend influencing organic rankings.

I’d be interested to know what sort of spend was placed on promoting this page as well as the competativeness of the phrase (maybe too much to ask ;)).

It would be great to have more examples. If it is true (which the Incubeta guys) believe, it has major consequences.

]]> By: Duncan Jennings http://www.vinnylingham.com/new-algorithm-discovered-natural-search-paid-search-confluence-by-google.html/comment-page-1#comment-155043 Duncan Jennings Mon, 05 Mar 2007 14:57:28 +0000 http://www.vinnylingham.com/2007/03/new-algorithm-discovered-natural-search-paid-search-confluence-by-google.html#comment-155043 I have seen quite a lot of evidence to support Vinny's theory over the last year in the UK search space. <br><br>In commercial areas the ability to attain a good CTR and maintain PPC expenditure is often an indicator that the web site / company has a compelling offering. As a result I think it makes perfect sense for Google to factor this in to the organic algo to some degree. I have seen quite a lot of evidence to support Vinny's theory over the last year in the UK search space.

In commercial areas the ability to attain a good CTR and maintain PPC expenditure is often an indicator that the web site / company has a compelling offering. As a result I think it makes perfect sense for Google to factor this in to the organic algo to some degree.

]]> By: Duncan Jennings http://www.vinnylingham.com/new-algorithm-discovered-natural-search-paid-search-confluence-by-google.html/comment-page-1#comment-15504 Duncan Jennings Mon, 05 Mar 2007 09:57:28 +0000 http://www.vinnylingham.com/2007/03/new-algorithm-discovered-natural-search-paid-search-confluence-by-google.html#comment-15504 I have seen quite a lot of evidence to support Vinny's theory over the last year in the UK search space. In commercial areas the ability to attain a good CTR and maintain PPC expenditure is often an indicator that the web site / company has a compelling offering. As a result I think it makes perfect sense for Google to factor this in to the organic algo to some degree. I have seen quite a lot of evidence to support Vinny’s theory over the last year in the UK search space.

In commercial areas the ability to attain a good CTR and maintain PPC expenditure is often an indicator that the web site / company has a compelling offering. As a result I think it makes perfect sense for Google to factor this in to the organic algo to some degree.

]]> By: Chris Kramer http://www.vinnylingham.com/new-algorithm-discovered-natural-search-paid-search-confluence-by-google.html/comment-page-1#comment-155042 Chris Kramer Sun, 04 Mar 2007 21:02:15 +0000 http://www.vinnylingham.com/2007/03/new-algorithm-discovered-natural-search-paid-search-confluence-by-google.html#comment-155042 Google has always maintained that purchasing PPC listings will not help your organic ranking, and as John and Vinny point out I think that what is going on is that they are not directly related. came across this that helps explain some of the factors:<br><br><a href="http://www.seobook.com/archives/001939.shtml">http://www.seobook.com/archives/001939.shtml</a> Google has always maintained that purchasing PPC listings will not help your organic ranking, and as John and Vinny point out I think that what is going on is that they are not directly related. came across this that helps explain some of the factors:

http://www.seobook.com/archives/001939.shtml

]]> By: Chris Kramer http://www.vinnylingham.com/new-algorithm-discovered-natural-search-paid-search-confluence-by-google.html/comment-page-1#comment-15359 Chris Kramer Sun, 04 Mar 2007 16:02:15 +0000 http://www.vinnylingham.com/2007/03/new-algorithm-discovered-natural-search-paid-search-confluence-by-google.html#comment-15359 Google has always maintained that purchasing PPC listings will not help your organic ranking, and as John and Vinny point out I think that what is going on is that they are not directly related. came across this that helps explain some of the factors: http://www.seobook.com/archives/001939.shtml Google has always maintained that purchasing PPC listings will not help your organic ranking, and as John and Vinny point out I think that what is going on is that they are not directly related. came across this that helps explain some of the factors:

http://www.seobook.com/archives/001939.shtml

]]> By: Vinny Lingham http://www.vinnylingham.com/new-algorithm-discovered-natural-search-paid-search-confluence-by-google.html/comment-page-1#comment-155041 Vinny Lingham Fri, 02 Mar 2007 22:56:02 +0000 http://www.vinnylingham.com/2007/03/new-algorithm-discovered-natural-search-paid-search-confluence-by-google.html#comment-155041 I agree with John's points. Chris, it's definitely not personalized search - I checked on my PC and it wasn't the one running the campaign, and the search volume was quite high on that keyword so I don't think it was impacted. We did check links back and there were not any. I agree with John's points. Chris, it's definitely not personalized search - I checked on my PC and it wasn't the one running the campaign, and the search volume was quite high on that keyword so I don't think it was impacted. We did check links back and there were not any.

]]> By: Chris M http://www.vinnylingham.com/new-algorithm-discovered-natural-search-paid-search-confluence-by-google.html/comment-page-1#comment-155040 Chris M Fri, 02 Mar 2007 22:37:01 +0000 http://www.vinnylingham.com/2007/03/new-algorithm-discovered-natural-search-paid-search-confluence-by-google.html#comment-155040 Maybe it has something to do with the traffic that was generated by the PPC campaign?<br><br>Also, maybe it had to do with personalized search. Did you and your client remember to log out of any Google accounts before searching the keyword? Maybe it has something to do with the traffic that was generated by the PPC campaign?

Also, maybe it had to do with personalized search. Did you and your client remember to log out of any Google accounts before searching the keyword?

]]> By: Rafiq Phillips http://www.vinnylingham.com/new-algorithm-discovered-natural-search-paid-search-confluence-by-google.html/comment-page-1#comment-155039 Rafiq Phillips Fri, 02 Mar 2007 22:11:11 +0000 http://www.vinnylingham.com/2007/03/new-algorithm-discovered-natural-search-paid-search-confluence-by-google.html#comment-155039 Didnt know this was new, always thought that is the way they did it. Didnt know this was new, always thought that is the way they did it.

]]> By: John http://www.vinnylingham.com/new-algorithm-discovered-natural-search-paid-search-confluence-by-google.html/comment-page-1#comment-155038 John Fri, 02 Mar 2007 21:16:18 +0000 http://www.vinnylingham.com/2007/03/new-algorithm-discovered-natural-search-paid-search-confluence-by-google.html#comment-155038 Could have something to do with the algorythm: backlinks x page relevancy x user experience (which comes from paid listings). Yes Google are watching. Could have something to do with the algorythm: backlinks x page relevancy x user experience (which comes from paid listings). Yes Google are watching.

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